Chuck,

I am very interested in learning about this! What will be book be titled and where can I find it?

Thanks and God bless,

Michael

Hello Ernie, Ellen White, who was instrumental in the founding of the Seventh Day Adventists, has proven herself time and again to be a false prophet. I would never recommend anything by her.

Wow, a stunning revelation Noel. Ellen White is indeed a prophet, she speaks the very testimony of Jesus Himself. Denial of this is of the gravest concern! "...when the power of God testifies as to what is truth, that truth is to stand forever as the truth. No after-suppositions contrary to the light God has given are to be entertained." {Lt329-1905.17}

I know many Seventh Day Adventists still consider her a prophetess of God, but God sealed up His revelation to man with the last living apostle John. "For I testify unto every man that heareth the words of the prophecy of this book, If any man shall add unto these things, God shall add unto him the plagues that are written in this book: And if any man shall take away from the words of the book of this prophecy, God shall take away his part out of the book of life, and out of the holy city, and from the things which are written in this book." (Revelation 22:18-19)

God's Word is complete. Those who pretend to be prophets, bringing forth new revelations from God are FALSE prophets. "God, who at sundry times and in divers manners spake in time past unto the fathers by the prophets, Hath in these last days spoken unto us by his Son, whom he hath appointed heir of all things, by whom also he made the worlds" (Hebrews 1:1-2). "How shall we escape, if we neglect so great salvation; which at the first began to be spoken by the Lord, and was confirmed unto us by them that heard him; God also bearing them witness, both with signs and wonders, and with divers miracles, and gifts of the Holy Ghost, according to his own will?" (Hebrews 2:3-4)

The apostles haves sealed up His testimony in the New Testament. The ministry of the Holy Spirit is now to illuminate His Word to those who would believe.

Is the Bible sufficient for our faith and practice, or do we need further revelation in the form of 2,000 visions from a self-proclaimed prophetess? The foundations of Seventh Day Adventism are on the sinking sands of another false prophet Miller, who prophesied that Jesus would come back in 1844.

One thing is certain as it CONCERNS PROPHECY. The very last prophetic event and the ONLY verse that speaks to this final, end of all things verse is Daniel 11:45. When it is fulfilled, then Daniel 12:1 immediately follows: the end of probation for the entire world. Michael (Jesus) "stands up". His work is done, the final preparations in heaven for His return begin. The world will fall into utter chaos.

It is imperative that these two verses, 11:45 and 12:1 be understood. There is no other prophecy as significant as verse 45 as it concerns the end of the world.

Verse 45 is in two parts: The king of the north rules over the "glorious land" (Israel). Then, that same "king" comes to his end. Then, Jesus "stands up", probation closes, and He returns for His people.

I am not sure how you come up with this bizarre idea that the archangel Michael (Jude 1:9) is Jesus. That is a blatant deception. Jesus is God manifest in the flesh, the Creator of the cosmos, the Saviour of the world.

As for the prophetic future, I know there may be some liberty in interpreting or understanding those passages as they have not yet come to pass, and at times, they only become clear when we approach the time at hand. But here is my present understanding.

Prior to Daniel 11:35 have already been fulfilled, and from that verse forward is future. Verse 36 starts with the following which is obviously a reference to Antichrist. "And the king shall do according to his will; and he shall exalt himself, and magnify himself above every god, and shall speak marvellous things against the God of gods, and shall prosper till the indignation be accomplished: for that that is determined shall be done." (Daniel 11:36; cref. Isaiah 14:13; 2 Thessalonians 2:4) From here to the end of the chapter describe the Antichrist's career.

He enters the scene at the beginning of the time of Jacob's Trouble (Jeremiah 30:7), the 7 year tribulation, when he "confirms a covenant" (Daniel 9:27) with the Jews, making way for them to begin their sacrifice and offerings, which would necessitate the rebuilding of their temple in Jerusalem. For the FIRST three and one half years of the tribulation, the "Two Witnesses" are bringing plagues on the earth as often as they will, then the Antichrist kills them (Revelation 11:3, 6-7). The cry then follows, "who is able to make war with him? And there was given unto him a mouth speaking great things and blasphemies; and power was given unto him to continue forty and two months." (Revelation 13:4-5) That is the LAST three and one half years of the tribulation.

During that time there will be many "wars and rumors of wars", and some of these are described in the latter half of Daniel 11. Now when it states, "But tidings out of the east and out of the north shall trouble him: therefore he shall go forth with great fury to destroy, and utterly to make away many." (Daniel 11:44), this may be referring to Revelation 9:13-21; 16:12. And now we come to the verse you are so focussed on. "And he shall plant the tabernacles of his palace between the seas in the glorious holy mountain; yet he shall come to his end, and none shall help him." (Daniel 11:45)

Now this verse is in reference to the Antichrist. When it says, "yet he shall come to his end, and none shall help him", this is a reference to the return of Jesus Christ. "I beheld then because of the voice of the great words which the horn spake: I beheld even till the beast was slain, and his body destroyed, and given to the burning flame." (Daniel 7:11); when the antichrist and the false prophet are cast into the lake of fire (Revelation 19:20).

Now we move into Daniel chapter 12. "And at that time shall Michael stand up, the great prince which standeth for the children of thy people: and there shall be a time of trouble, such as never was since there was a nation even to that same time: and at that time thy people shall be delivered, every one that shall be found written in the book." (Daniel 12:1)

"At that time" is in reference to the last three and one half of the Great Tribulation. This is when Antichrist is possessed of Satan and given the same power (Revelation 13:4-7) that he offered Jesus in His temptation in the wilderness (Luke 4:5-8). It is at this time that Antichrist breaks the covenant with the Jews and sits in the Temple of God showing himself that he is God and that all have to worship the image of the beast. Jesus mentioned this in Matthew 24:15, 21. It is at this point that Israel is told to flee to the wilderness (Matthew 24:16-19, 20).

Now this can all be cross-referenced in Revelation Chapter 12 where we read, "And the woman fled into the wilderness, where she hath a place prepared of God, that they should feed her there a thousand two hundred and threescore days. And there was war in heaven: Michael and his angels fought against the dragon; and the dragon fought and his angels, And prevailed not; neither was their place found any more in heaven. And the great dragon was cast out, that old serpent, called the Devil, and Satan, which deceiveth the whole world: he was cast out into the earth, and his angels were cast out with him." (Revelation 12:6-9)

The "woman" is Israel who flees to the wilderness and is miraculously protected by God for "a thousand two hundred and threescore days" or three and one half years, the last half of the Great Tribulation. And it is here that we get a peek behind the scenes so to say, of those principalities and powers, and we see how the fallen angels that followed Satan in his rebellion against God (1/3 of an innumerable number) fight against Michael the archangel, and those angels who are God's ministers (Psalm 104:4). So I repeat, Michael the archangel is not the Son of God. Michael and all the angels worship the Son of God (Hebrews 1:4-7).

ALL of Daniel 11 is literal, not symbolic. Real men, acting out in historic times. Verse 44 was fulfilled, literally, in 1856 with the Crimean War. There is only one verse left, Daniel 11:45. When Jesus (Michael) stands up, it can be likened to the doors of Noah's Ark closing. The world's fate was then sealed.

Who, then, is Michael? and what is his standing up? Michael is called, in Jude 9, the "archangel." This means the chief angel or the head over the angels. There is but one. Who is he? He is the one whose voice is heard from heaven when the dead are raised. 1Thess.4:16. And whose voice is heard in connection with that event? - The voice of our Lord Jesus Christ. John5:28. Tracing back the evidence with this fact as a basis, we reach the following conclusions: The voice of the Son of God is the voice of the archangel; the archangel, then, is the Son of God, but the archangel is Michael; hence also Michael is the Son of God. The expression of Daniel, "The great prince which standeth for the children of thy people," is alone sufficient to identify the one here spoken of as the Saviour of men. He is the Prince of life (Acts3:15), and God hath exalted him to be a "Prince and a Saviour." Acts 5:31. He is the great Prince. There is no one greater, save the sovereign Father.

Yes, I would agree that Daniel 11 is dealing with real history and real people and nations. Daniel 11:2 is dealing with Persia. Daniel 11:3-4 is dealing with Greece. Daniel 11:5-20 is dealing with the Ptolomies and the Selucids. Daniel 11:21-35 is dealing with Antiochus IV. But then we see a leap into the future, that is dealing with the Antichrist in Daniel 11:36-45, of whom Antiochus was just a type, and Great Tribulation in Daniel 12:1.

Daniel 11:36-37 deal with the Antichrists magnification. Verse 38-39, his military power, verse 40-43, his military successes, and verse 44-45, his defeat. You would not be so confused if you would stick to the Bible and abandon that occult prophetess. All the cults either want to make Jesus an angel or they get their revelation from angels, whether it is the Mormons, or Muslims, or Jehovah Witness, etc. And they all come up with some New Revelation they exalt above the Scriptures. This is why the apostle Paul said, "But though we, or an angel from heaven, preach any other gospel unto you than that which we have preached unto you, let him be accursed." (Galatians 1:8)

1 Thessalonians 4:16 does not say that Jesus is an archangel. He is "the Lord" from heaven. You are wresting the Scriptures. "For the Lord Himself will descend from heaven with a shout, with the voice of the archangel and with the trumpet of God, and the dead in Christ will rise first." (1 Thessalonians 4:16) The Lord Jesus Christ did not come to the earth as an angel, He came to earth as a MAN. "The first man is of the earth, earthy: the second man is the Lord from heaven." (1 Corinthians 15:47) He comes WITH the voice of the archangel, and WITH the Trumpet of God.

Michael is a created being (Colossians 1:16), and the apostle Paul warns us about the "worshipping of angels" (Colossians 2:18), and Michael is one among other of the archangels of God (Daniel 10:13), who is called to worship Jesus Christ, the Son of God.

"Being made so much better than the angels, as he hath by inheritance obtained a more excellent name than they. For unto which of the angels said he at any time, Thou art my Son, this day have I begotten thee? And again, I will be to him a Father, and he shall be to me a Son? And again, when he bringeth in the firstbegotten into the world, he saith, And let all the angels of God worship him." (Hebrews 2:4-5)

And just because the archangel Michael is referred to the prince who stands for Israel, there are angels (princes) who stand for other of the nations such as Persia and Greece (Daniel 10:13, 20). The word prince has many applications, and is used in many different ways in the Scriptures, and refers to many different people. Zedekiah is referred to the "prince of Israel" (Ezekiel 21:25), so does that mean he is Michael? Jesus is not the "Prince of Israel". He may be referred to "Messiah the Prince" (Daniel 9:24-27), but that does not mean He is Michael the archangel, but when The Lord Jesus Christ returns, it will be as King of Kings and Lord of Lords. He is the Son of God and KING of Israel.

Your "conclusions" are such a perversion of the Scriptures, but this is what happens when you follow these occultists. As the apostle Paul says, "Preach THE WORD; be instant in season, out of season; reprove, rebuke, exhort with all longsuffering and doctrine. For the time will come when they will not endure sound doctrine; but after their own lusts shall they heap to themselves teachers, having itching ears; And they shall turn away their ears from the truth, and shall be turned unto fables." (2 Timothy 4:2-4) You want to teach the aberrant teachings of the self proclaimed prophetess Ellen Betty White, you have the free will to do as you wish, but we will not be following your fables.