Yo Noel,
Would you say that the poodle looks like the wolf, or the wild dog? I'm going to assume you wouldn't. And would you admit that the domestic dog is descended from the wolf? I'm not sure what it says in the Bible, if anything, about the origin of domestic dogs, but this would be a surprising one to deny.
What you'll surely say is "Ah, but that's artificial selection, that's different!". But human intent is not of direct relevance to the genome of the poodle. All we do is create a selection pressure, let's say a demand for cuteness. The cuter dogs get the opportunity to breed, and ones that don't fit the selection pressure stay out of the pedigree, their legacy vanishing.
Individuals which fail to overcome the selection pressures which confront them do not pass their genes on to the next generation, and in organisms presented with a very strong, continuous selection pressure like poodles, this can result in striking changes to the appearance of an organism over a relatively short period.
You seem to accept the existence of the conditions necessary for evolution to occur: variation in fitness, heredity and mutation (kudos). You don't accept that 3 billion years is long enough for the processes involved to result in the complexity and variation around us. Consider the rise of the poodle, consider HIV, consider the peppered moth. These forces are strong, and quick.
Great Job!!! Thank you!
My favorite part of this article was "Evolution are nothing more than a fantasy that has been thought out by men (and inspired by the devil)".
Thanks for the laugh! I needed it.
Enjoy perpetuating in your own ignorance,
-Chuck Darwin
Dear Chuck, sorry you are in hell, but by your own free will you rejected the clear and observable truth found in the Creators creation (not to mention His Word). God has no pleasure in the death of the wicked. "As I live, saith the Lord GOD, I have no pleasure in the death of the wicked; but that the wicked turn from his way and live: turn ye, turn ye from your evil ways; for why will ye die" (Ezekiel 33:11) God is longsuffering not willing that any should perish, but that all should come to repentance. He gave you 73 years to figure it out but it appears the further on you got in life the more you hardened your heart to His marvellous mercy and grace wherein He offered you the free gift of eternal life through faith in His Son Jesus Christ and His substitutionary atonement, which you of your own free will and volition rejected.
You would probably not like it in heaven anyway because that is where the One you despised and rejected lives and is admired by all those who recieved Him as their very own Saviour and were adopted as children of God. In your own demented way you may be laughing now, but on judgment day when all the dead are brough up from hell to stand before God and give an account to Him who made the universe, your laughter will be turned to wailing and knashing of teeth when you are finally cast out of Gods presence for eternity, tormented not only by the flames of hell, but of your own conscience as you ponder for eternity all those points in your life where God was calling you to eternal blessing and fellowship with Him but you spit in His face and rejected the One who truely loved you (despite all your defects) and died for you. Unfortunately it is too late for you, for "it is appointed unto men once to die, but after this the judgment" (Hebrews 9:27)
"Of how much sorer punishment, suppose ye, shall he be thought worthy, who hath trodden under foot the Son of God, and hath counted the blood of the covenant, wherewith he was sanctified, an unholy thing, and hath done despite unto the Spirit of grace?" (Hebrews 10:29)
However, for those who still have breath in their lungs there is still hope. "Seek ye the LORD while he may be found, call ye upon him while he is near: Let the wicked forsake his way, and the unrighteous man his thoughts: and let him return unto the LORD, and he will have mercy upon him; and to our God, for he will abundantly pardon." (Isaiah 55:6-7) "...there is no God else beside me; a just God and a Saviour; there is none beside me. Look unto me, and be ye saved, all the ends of the earth: for I am God, and there is none else." (Isaiah 45:21-22)
Please could I use some of your images on my website www.wasdarwinright.net. Happy to acknowledge you on the acknowldgement page
Yes, you are more than welcome.
Were homo sapiens all to be of the "Creationist" ilk, then we would, ironically, be most likely to become extinct. The fearful, rigid and ultimately stupid resistance to change and new evidence that old ways and beliefs simply don't work (Palestinians v. Jews, Christians v. Islam; each believing theirs is the only truth) is the cause of most destructive behaviour, here on earth.
Hopefully, there are enough open-minded, compassionate and kind people of reason to save us from these unfortunates.
Kit, you have likely never spent any detailed time studying the Bible to see what it clearly teaches, for if you had, you would see that those who have in times past masqueraded themselves as Christians are not really Christians. For example, the Crusaders were Roman Catholics, who are themselves evolutionists if they follow the claims of the pope.
Here is a sampling of what the Bible teaches: "And be ye kind one to another, tenderhearted, forgiving one another, even as God for Christ’s sake hath forgiven you" (Ephesians 4:32). "Thou shalt love thy neighbour as thyself (Matthew 19:19). It even goes as far to teach, "But I say unto you, Love your enemies, bless them that curse you, do good to them that hate you, and pray for them which despitefully use you, and persecute you" (Matthew 4:44). So do not be decieved by false Christianity for Christ said, "By this shall all men know that ye are my disciples, if ye have love one to another" (John 13:35). Many Claim to be Christian but do not follow Christ.
You also appear to be quite ignorant of the evils wrought in the name of evolution and appear to believe that evolution is some lovely little paradox. If you wish to know more about the evils wrought in the name of evolution you can read this link: http://www.answersingenesis.org/articles/2009/07/13/results-evolution-bloodiest-religion-ever
" In fact, there has been found fossil trilobites and footprints of a human in the same piece of rock proving that they co-existed with man as the Biblical record indicates. According to Evolution man is supposed to be 99 million years younger than trilobites. "
Photos of this? What I'm seeing in this article is 70% unsubstantiated claims, 20% misunderstanding of evolutionary processes, and 10% conspiracy theory.
There's a lot of: "Evolutions have this 'proof' but if you were to actually see the proof which I cannot supply, find, or give an example of, you would find that the evolutionists 'claims' are wrong." being thrown around.
Any sucker that gets fooled by this document probably deserves to live in their delusion.
David, in an earlier post you offer skin color as evidence for evolution. That is like saying because there are short people and tall people, brown hair and black hair, blue eyes and brown eyes, evolution is true. Because people have varying amounts of the skin pigment melanin is no evidence of evolution. Nor is it evidence that man evolved from the same common ancestor as apes.
You also talk about isolated groups as a motivator for evolution. That would only cause some of the dominant traits or features of that family unit of people to be dominant in that area (For example: the Indians of the Americas). Again, this would not change a monkey into a man.
You also talk of environmental adaptations and other natural stresses placed on man. Again, men living in the arctic will never in a million years change into a polar bear. His diet may change, his lifespan my change, he may dress warmer than those in tropical regions, but he will never change into a walrus no matter how much time you want to add. Some species do better in the tropics, that is why they live there, just like some species do better in the water, that is why they live there. Penguins like it cool so they live closer to the polar regions. If you think this sort of stuff is proof that points to evolution, enjoy your delusion.
All the variety you see within each species that God created had the ability to diversify and adapt within limits right from the beginning of creation. This was built into their genome which is now expressed in the marvelous diversities you see within each kind of creature today. But monkeys were always monkeys, and men were always men.
"Hi guys, I've been reading through all these and now it disheartens me to find out the universe became randomly for no reason at all and upon expending that energy, humankind as a product of that randomness also arrives the scene..Sad because with such devoted energy towards the creation of the universe only to discover that the energy dispersed within was wasted energy... I mean what was that universe creating energy's point afterall? Why even exist? Why not cut out the middle man and not even exist at all for no reason; instead of existing for no reason at all?
If we are the result of randomness or gods, does it matter to our todays existance? Yes, the universe is random (in my opinion, obviously Noel will argue for creationist etc) but surely, if we are a product of randomness we should make the most of this amazing chance we ahve been given? to expierence of lives to the fullest, to discuss our beliefs and findings (such as I am doing here) and to understand the universe?
Nice. I like all photo
Noel,
It is hard in this small space to point out every misunderstanding and mistake you have made in this passage.
1)"Although Evolution cannot be seen happening today"
This is a false statement. Evolution, boiled down, is Natural Selection and Mutation and Genetics. I will try to boil this down as much as I can.
Example: Tall and Dwarf Pea Plants.
A Dominant Gene is the Gene that will express itself if both itself and a Recessive gene is present, the Tall and Dwarf Genes are simple as they only run off Dominant and Recessive Genes. If Parent 1 Plant contains Dwarf Dwarf genes (I.E Homozygous) and Plant 2 contains Tall Tall genes (also Homozygous) Each of the offspring would have 1 Dwarf, 1 Tall Gene. This is the start of evolution. If we introduce say, an insect that loves Tall plants and feasts on them we can say that Tall plants will innevitably die out, so Of the children of our second generation (which are all Dwarf plants because that is Dominant (I am not sure what Gene is actually the Dominant one but this is hypothetical so it doesn't matter)) now Tall plants have a 1/4 of a chance of being produced
Because of the insect these Tall plants are eaten, reducing the amount of Tall plants that exist and therefore limiting the gene that produces them, making the Tall plant version to start to become extinct (obviously this is an extreme example as this would take a long time) Once the Phenotype (physical attribute) of the Tall plant is no longer shown that particualy "Species" is extinct, leaving the Dwarf Plant in it's place.
In the Theory of Evolution, this means that the Tall plant could become "Un extinct" if the enviornment was to revert to having no Insects and instead a bird that ate the small plants, the Tall Type could come back.
2) I believe your idea of a Species is Warped.
above you displayed pictures of things and said they were the same thing when they are not. Physical Diffences are easy to spot.
the Sphenodon punctatus example you give is a great example to this and my point above. If you look at the Lizards head size, the Fossil has a distinctly much smaller head, Thinner body, and longer Fingers and/or toes.
I believe the differences you think that we say happen, you think that in one evolution a lizard would grow an extra head, this is actually an example of a change in Genus, would is a much bigger difference, and you are looking for bigger changes then we are suggesting.
I will stop there for now, when/if you respond, i'll will answer any question you might have, and then continue onto other misunderstandings you seem to have
Since you are a Darwinian evolutionist I understand your dilema, for you continue to follow the defective understandings of Darwin himself and fail to understand the limitations of "Natural Selection and Mutations" and their effect on the genepool. Although we have delt with this already in the comments section, we will repeat this for your benefit.
Darwinists believe that Natural Selection and mutation is the mechanism that will somehow lift him up to a higher plane, however, all natural selection or "survival of the fittest" can do is filter out the mistakes. If a deer is born blind due to some genetic mutation, it will quickly be lunch for hungry wolves, and will thereby fail to pass on its hereditary defect to subsequent generations. Furthermore, all mutations are proven to be degenerative (even sickle cell anemia, antibiotic resistance in bugs, etc, which in the final analysis are shown to be degenerative), as biogenetics operate under the second law of Thermodynamics.
The fact of the matter is that natural selction is a powerless force making evolution an impossibility. Creation scientists have maintained that at best natural selection could only be a conservative force, weeding out the unfit, but would be powerless to generate increasing complexity and to originate something new or novel and thus powerless to change one kind of animal into another.
Creationists insist that at best such a process could only produce variants within an established kind and could never produce new and novel structures, and, furthermore, no random process, genetic drift, mutations or otherwise could produce millions of complex creatures from a single-celled organism in three billion years, or even in millions times three billion years.

Although Evolution cannot be seen happening today, this they say can be
observed in the fossil record. "Survival of the Fittest" is the catch word
to explain this alleged process throughout the ages and those creatures that
could not adapt died out,
producing no offspring and became extinct. On the other hand, the "strong" kept
getting stronger, producing new and improved offspring adapting to their
environment by arbitrarily changing its own function and form over eons of
time..
Here is a fossil sand dollar from Baja California, the skeleton of a sand
dollar from the Gulf of Mexico, and two living
specimens also from the Gulf of Mexico. Once again, we fail
to see evolution in action.
Fossilized human bones (Homo sapiens sapiens) from the Qafzeh cave site in
Nazareth, Israel.
While on an expedition for dinosaur fossils in Niger in 2000, photographer Mike
Hettwer discovered hundreds of fossilized humans in the Sahara Desert.
The
Carolina Parakeet
was a creature that used to thrive in the southeastern United States. But when
this bird developed a liking for the seeds of many kinds of fruit and grain
crops, it was then deemed a pest sealing its fate to wholesale annihilation.
Deforestation for agricultural purposes further reduced its habitat. The last
of these birds was seen in the 1920's in Florida where its final stand of
forest was located.
Bali is a small island that used to be home to the
Bali Tiger
but Human activity, agriculture (coffee and coconut cultivation), collection
of firewood, increasing tourism and uncontrolled hunting for sport pushed
the tiger into smaller and smaller regions until the last known Bali Tiger was
shot and killed on the 27th of September 1937; this was an adult tigress.
The famous
Dodo Bird
inhabited the island of Mauritius in the Indian Ocean, where it lived
undisturbed before the arrival of man. It lived and nested on the ground and
ate fruits that had fallen from trees. There were no mammals on the island and
a high diversity of bird species lived in the dense forests.
The
Great Auk
was the last flightless seabird of the Northern Hemisphere, inhabiting the
boreal and low-Arctic regions of the North Atlantic. Large body size made the
Great Auk especially susceptible to human overexploitation for food, fat, bait,
and feathers. Ultimate extinction was caused by the collection of specimens for
museums and private collectors; on Eldey Island, Iceland, in 1844, the last 2
confirmed adults were killed for European collectors.
The
Laughing Owl
was once common to New Zealand, but is probably now extinct. European settlers
first arrived in New Zealand in 1840, when the laughing owl was plentiful.
Specimens of the laughing owl were sent to the British Museum where reports on
them were published in 1845.
There were
Moa
living in New Zealand when the Maori people arrived but it is believed that
the moa was totally extinct in 1769 when Captain Cook landed in New Zealand.
Some land was cleared by the Maori, which would have reduced its habitat. But
the main reason the moa became extinct was hunting.
The
Passenger Pigeon
was estimated to be numbering in the billions in the early 1800's. In 1810 the
famous ornithologist Alexander Wilson described a flock that “darkened the sky”
– it was several miles across and took hours to pass overhead. He calculated
the size of the flock --- using the time it took to pass over, its width, and
the number of birds passing over per minute – and estimated there were over two
billion birds in this one flock. But by the early 1900's they were hunted (for
food) to extinction by man. A monument to the passenger pigeon, in the
Wisconsin's Wyalusing State Park declares: This species became extinct
through the avarice and
thoughtlessness of man. The passenger pigeon officially became extinct
when the last known representative died on September 1, 1914 in the Cincinnati
Zoo.
The
Quagga
(
Equus quagga
) is a recently extinct mammal. Some believe that the quagga is closely related
to horses and zebras. It was a yellowish-brown zebra with stripes only on its
head, neck and fore body. The quagga was native to the desert areas of Africa
until it was exterminated in the wild in the 1870s. The quagga went extinct
because South African farmers hunted it down for meat and leather. The settlers
also saw them as competitors for their livestock, mainly sheep and goats. The
last captive quagga's died in Europe in the 1880s.
The
Tasmanian wolf
was found only on the southwestern side of the island of Tasmania in recent
history. The fossil record shows that it was found in New Guinea and Australia
as recently as 3,000 years ago. The Tasmanian Wolf was thought to be a
livestock killer. This was never substantiated, but because of this
misconception the wolf was hunted (by the private sector and the government)
from 1840-1909 for bounty. The Tasmanian Wolf is now thought to be extinct when
the last know living specimen died in a Hobart, Tasmanian zoo in 1936. The main
factors leading to the demise of this species were over hunting, habitat
destruction, disease, and competition with domesticated dogs.
Toolache wallabies
were native to a small area in South-eastern Australia. Hunting by man was
probably the main cause of extinction. They had a very beautiful pelt that was
in great demand. This species was also a favorite prey for dog-hunts, because
of its combination of high speed and unpredictable jumps. A second factor in
the extermination of the Toolache wallaby may have been the introduction of the
fox, which preyed on the young wallabies.
The last member of this species may have been a captive female that survived
till at least 1927.
The
Heath Hen
, a small wild fowl, was a relative of the prairie chicken. It was once
considered quite tasty and was rather easy to kill. Prior to the American
Revolution, the heath hen was found in the eastern United States from Maine to
Virginia. Expanding human populations in the colonies put an intolerable
hunting pressure on the heath hen populations, noticeably lowering the heath
hen populations by the time of the Revolutionary War. In 1830 the heath hen's
steep decline garnered the attention of naturalist John Audubon (founder of The
Audubon Society), but it continued unabated. By the 1870s the only heath hens
left, occupied a tiny island called Martha's Vineyard off the coast of Cape Cod
in Massachusetts. In 1907 there were only 50 heath hens left on Martha's
Vineyard. The following year a 1600-acre sanctuary was established for their
protection.
The
Jamaican Giant Galliwasp
was a reptile with a length of about 30 centimeters. Its color was described
as pale brown, clouded with somewhat irregular bands of a deeper tinge. It was
said to occasionally change into a lively golden yellow. These lizards lived in
woody and marshy districts and fed on fish and fruit. The last of the Jamaican
Giant Galliwasps probably survived in the Hellshire Hills, a mongoose-free area
on the island of Jamaica. The last Jamaican Giant Galliwasp was recorded in
1840. The probable cause of extinction was the introduction of mongooses by
humans.
At one time, the
Steller's Sea Cow
was found in the cold waters of the Bering Sea, but it was hunted to
extinction within 27 years of its discovery in 1741. The largest sirenian on
record, the Steller's sea cow grew up to nine meters (30 feet) in length and
weighed around four metric tons (approximately 4.4 tons).
In the beginning, on
day one
of the creation week, God created the heavens and the earth (time, space and
matter), and the earth was without form and void. The earth at this time
consisted of the elements and water (building blocks)(Genesis 1:2). Then on
day two
God divided the waters and made a space or an expanse between the waters above
and the waters below (Genesis 1:6-8). On
day three
God caused dry land to appear out of the waters beneath the atmosphere and He
called the dry land Earth (Genesis 1:9-13).
When we look at the strata in the mountains today, (which are full of fossils),
they have the appearance of being uplifted with the lines of strata presented
at vertical angles. It is not hard to imagine when the mountains were lifted
up, the water runoff would have caused great valleys and canyons to be cut out
all over the earth revealing the strata that was precipitated out of the
floodwaters of Noah along with all the creatures buried therein. Where canyons
are cut out, the layers of strata tend to be in a more horizontal arrangement
such as in the Grand Canyon.
This method measures the ratio of C-14 and C-12 in a creature after it has died.
When the artists created the Geologic Time Scale, it gave the appearance of
evolution happening over geologic time, with marine invertebrates on the bottom
working their way up to man at the top. But when one looks at the finer
details,
the true picture represented is that of distinct kinds, some that are extinct
and some that are living today.
Any changes we may see are always on a horizontal level within a kind
(example: many varieties of cats), or on a downward level due to mutations and
extinctions (contrary to evolutions upward demands).